no one cares for superfluous legislation, hopefully. that, too, is a dangerous power structure. assuming rape is illegal, perhaps what you need are better definitions of consent, not for politicians to make unnecessary laws on the basis of broad assumptions.
you're not a legal adult between ages 15 and 18 in any other aspects than the sexual, because the law doesn't assume that a 16 year old should drive a car or drink. if we acknowledge that there are minors in this age group who cannot administer driving or drinking rights, why should we not acknowledge that they aren't ready to engage in other risk behaviours, which sleeping with a person twenty or thirty years older and for that reason, in another position of power than them, certainly is? what's the difference? driving without the means to navigate the situation properly could seriously injure you. same goes for sex with people who don't understand or care about your vulnerability.
or perhaps our laws are already very conservative and this, in itself, is a symptom, not a solution. we should be helping people make better decisions for themselves, freely and consciously, not boxing them in with legislation. in the case of your proposed bill, one can hope it'll lead to heightened sense of responsibility amongst young and old people alike but does it work like that, realistically?
i want people to be capable. i don't want them to rely on the state for something like that - to make judgement calls in obvious situations.
while i believe in equality, jean louis, that doesn't mean people are the same and what you call "capable" actually only means "able to do what i do with ease", although you're a 1 in a million and 99 percent of the population would need assistance and extensive help to achieve the same thing. some will never be able to achieve it, regardless of the help extended. these are factors and realities we need to consider when making our laws. or they will be empathy-ridden and cold to the average and sub-average person.
and what you call "obvious situations" may seem obvious to you, but i assure you, there are people out there who do not consider it obvious that they shouldn't fuck their student or their friend's 16 year old daughter or whatever and until we manage to create a discourse that can make these calls truly "obvious", we need legislation to ensure that that 17 year old boy or that 16 year old girl can look to something and see: it's not me, i didn't do anything wrong, the responsibility is with the adult person who made the wrong fucking call.
quite a lot of faith you put in me and my circumstances but i see your point. there are those who must fight and work harder to get where they want to go - to make the right calls, to learn when they don't. it's very human and not something to be turned into a tragedy. it's certainly not a cause for more legislation.
we agree on responsibility, just not on how to ensure it. thus, here we are, on opposite ends of the spectrum. i do wish you all the best on the bill, i hope you know; supposedly, it's very well-crafted, too.
it's just gossip. as soon as anything that happens in french politics makes it past your drawing boards, there's a high chance it ends up here. our press consultants have certain interests.
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claude. :)
i don't know, never started a party before. define 'okay'.
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we have enough seats for now.
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you used to be in the cdp, right? is this vengeance or politics?
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does it matter?
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tell me your argument.
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i want people to be capable. i don't want them to rely on the state for something like that - to make judgement calls in obvious situations.
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and what you call "obvious situations" may seem obvious to you, but i assure you, there are people out there who do not consider it obvious that they shouldn't fuck their student or their friend's 16 year old daughter or whatever and until we manage to create a discourse that can make these calls truly "obvious", we need legislation to ensure that that 17 year old boy or that 16 year old girl can look to something and see: it's not me, i didn't do anything wrong, the responsibility is with the adult person who made the wrong fucking call.
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we agree on responsibility, just not on how to ensure it. thus, here we are, on opposite ends of the spectrum. i do wish you all the best on the bill, i hope you know; supposedly, it's very well-crafted, too.
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how closely have you been following the process? do i want to know?
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though, i've also been paying attention.
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do you want company? while your party learns to walk.
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if not, i'll arrange for alternatives.
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my place it is. when?
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